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Z doesn't send CC message (Touch function on XY pad)
Quote from kldvb on 21/07/2024, 18:59Hey, first of all, thanks a lot for your app.
I'm facing an issue where the Z axis that capture when i press the XY pad doesn't send any CC message. I need this CC message to activate my effect simultaneously with the X and Y movements.
Assigning X and Y was really easy, i just had to enter in the MIDI MAP mode of Ableton Live by selecting the VST parameter and send a CC message from my Android tablet by muting the 2 others (for example X & Z) and doing a gesture on the tablet. But Z send nothing...Here's a screenshot of my mapping, Z is assigned to CC 3 : https://freeimage.host/i/dnsMSef
Thanks
Hey, first of all, thanks a lot for your app.
I'm facing an issue where the Z axis that capture when i press the XY pad doesn't send any CC message. I need this CC message to activate my effect simultaneously with the X and Y movements.
Assigning X and Y was really easy, i just had to enter in the MIDI MAP mode of Ableton Live by selecting the VST parameter and send a CC message from my Android tablet by muting the 2 others (for example X & Z) and doing a gesture on the tablet. But Z send nothing...
Here's a screenshot of my mapping, Z is assigned to CC 3 : https://freeimage.host/i/dnsMSef
Thanks
Quote from Auth-bot on 21/07/2024, 19:10Hello.
For the Z axis CC to be sent you must touch with 2 fingers on the 3D Pad.
Are you doing this?
Hello.
For the Z axis CC to be sent you must touch with 2 fingers on the 3D Pad.
Are you doing this?
Quote from kldvb on 21/07/2024, 19:25Hey,
Yes of course, here's a video that show you the CC value of Z changing in the app but not sending anything to ableton (contrary to XY). I filmed the MIDI part of my screen because it blink if it receive any CC MIDI message, and it doesn't blink here so nothing is send from daw it.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BIIj-HhfL57Ap9coA4LevQZKh9CUTD9G/view?usp=drivesdk
Also i'm wondering if there's another parameter in daw it for a "0 to 1" message. It will be more suitable for my case because i want to replicate what already do the VST when used with my mouse : ON/OFF on "Pad touch" parameter when the mouse is clicked and hold
Thanks
Hey,
Yes of course, here's a video that show you the CC value of Z changing in the app but not sending anything to ableton (contrary to XY). I filmed the MIDI part of my screen because it blink if it receive any CC MIDI message, and it doesn't blink here so nothing is send from daw it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BIIj-HhfL57Ap9coA4LevQZKh9CUTD9G/view?usp=drivesdk
Also i'm wondering if there's another parameter in daw it for a "0 to 1" message. It will be more suitable for my case because i want to replicate what already do the VST when used with my mouse : ON/OFF on "Pad touch" parameter when the mouse is clicked and hold
Thanks
Quote from Auth-bot on 21/07/2024, 19:40I did a test on my DAW and all seem OK. I sent CC#1 on X, CC#3 on Y and CC#4 on Z. So I cannot understand what happens from your side
I did a test on my DAW and all seem OK. I sent CC#1 on X, CC#3 on Y and CC#4 on Z. So I cannot understand what happens from your side
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Quote from kldvb on 21/07/2024, 19:56I will try again with different CC values ! Do you have a suggestion about how i can achieve the "ON/OFF" behavior when the XY pad is pressed?
I will try again with different CC values ! Do you have a suggestion about how i can achieve the "ON/OFF" behavior when the XY pad is pressed?
Quote from Auth-bot on 21/07/2024, 20:02I guess this depends on your DAW. If the DAW receives a CC value greater than 64 this will be the ON and less than 63 will be the OFF.
But of course you understand that it is a bit wierd. I'd use a MIDI button for the ON/OFF.
In DAW IT you can use Pads and Buttons simultaneously by using the AUX panel
https://dawvelopment.com/daw-it-user-manual-auxiliary-panel/
I guess this depends on your DAW. If the DAW receives a CC value greater than 64 this will be the ON and less than 63 will be the OFF.
But of course you understand that it is a bit wierd. I'd use a MIDI button for the ON/OFF.
In DAW IT you can use Pads and Buttons simultaneously by using the AUX panel
Quote from AmeliaThomas on 27/08/2026, 01:20You are not alone with Ableton Mapping, it can be a headache to get 3 axes mapping properly on a touch surface if the Z-press is not sending anything! If I have this sort of problem that is hard to solve, I will just take a quick break, take off the DAW and go make a cup of coffee with my hayati refillable pods pods and then come back to work and get the hang of it again.
You are not alone with Ableton Mapping, it can be a headache to get 3 axes mapping properly on a touch surface if the Z-press is not sending anything! If I have this sort of problem that is hard to solve, I will just take a quick break, take off the DAW and go make a cup of coffee with my hayati refillable pods pods and then come back to work and get the hang of it again.
